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Mana From Heaven For RPG Fans On Boxing Day In Europe

Posted Mon, 22 Dec 2008 by Darren Calvert

Secret of Mana for Europe - finally!

Secret of Mana for Europe - finally!

Hopefully European readers have asked Santa for lots of Wii points this Christmas as it seems ours pals at Nintendo have been holding back on you for a boxing day surprise this coming Friday.

Obviously the surprise is completely ruined now! Isn’t the Internet good for doing that? All the same we think you will be delighted to hear that one of the best RPGs ever is finally coming out in Europe. Yes that’s right, it’s Secret of Mana. North America got this back in October, it’s good to see Europe finally catching up.

The other game will be Sonic 2 on the Master System. Now this might be less interesting to most of you, but we are sure there are some of you who were born in the early 80s who would have played this to death at the time on your older brothers Master System hand-me-down! All the cool kids had a Mega Drive by 1992 after all :-p

Thanks to our long time reader KeeperBvK for the heads up.

Source: Nintendo Power (German)

Tags: Virtual Console, EU releases, SNES, Master System.

User Comments

Corbie

1. Corbie United States 22 Dec 2008, 07:03 GMT

Well it's great that European gamers will finally get Secret of Mana on the VC. It's about time! :)

Mickeymac

2. Mickeymac United States 22 Dec 2008, 07:23 GMT

Thank G-D! Now the complaints will finally end! At least until they find something else that they want. But for right now, sweet, sweet silence.

Shadx

3. Shadx Canada 22 Dec 2008, 07:24 GMT

Neat. Secret of Mana really is a great game. I'm stuck at the mana fortress right now though ... so hard to level the girls magic up. I might be getting a Wii Points card in the morning but I'm definately getting one before christmas. Any suggestions on what to buy? I plan on getting Bomberman Blast but I'm not positive. And even if I do, I'll have 1000 points left.

2 days till christmas eve? AWESOME! I get to open half my presents on X-mas eve because my great grandma and grandpa are getting too old to come over during the icy weather, so I open my presents there, come home, sleep (yeah right) get up and open more presents! Also, I would like to know of some good MULTIPLAYER (or at least co-op) WiiShop Channel games. So basically anything with 2 or more player capabilities. Any good ones?

Devastator

4. Devastator United States 22 Dec 2008, 07:29 GMT

I hope North America gets a good set of games tommrow. It would really suck to have a one game release before Christmas.

Mickeymac

5. Mickeymac United States 22 Dec 2008, 07:36 GMT

Well, we're already getting two Wiiware games this week, so there is a good chance that we'll only get one VC game this week. I mean, heck, look at what Europe's getting - this basically their equivalent of a one-game week, even if they are top-pick games. Anyways lets just hope I'm wrong, or at the very least that one game is the one you want.

Come on, M.U.S.H.A., Daddy needs a new pair a' shoes!

Ricardo91

6. Ricardo91 United States 22 Dec 2008, 07:43 GMT

Is that the hallelujah chorus I'm hearing? Now if America can just get Castlevania III, or at least a decent game tomorrow, all will be well.

@Mickeymac. Just wait. Now they're gonna start bitching about Mario Golf. :P

Nathan

7. Nathan Australia 22 Dec 2008, 08:20 GMT

Mario Golf was pretty good Mr Cheez, but I for one in the PAL region, do not care much for it now... But oh yeah, Secret of Mana! Bring it on!

By the way, Santa is a cross dresser. You know, Santa Maria, Santa Barbara...

Link79

8. Link79 United States 22 Dec 2008, 08:39 GMT

Just watch I bet us American Wii owners will get a lump of poop in our Virtual console stockings this week. Sure we've had Secret of Mana for a while now but it never fails that Europe gets more games than us each week and we always get the shaft. I predict a big up yours from nintendo this monday. I'll be pretty shocked if anything decent gets added.

Captain_Konami

9. Captain_Konami United States 22 Dec 2008, 08:49 GMT

Well score Europe! Good show. Nintendo finally coughed it up after keeping it in their back pocket too long. Of the two absent games, SoM or Mario Golf, you easily got the better of two I'd say.

And with Sonic as the back up, just getting things up to a one-game-per-week status, eh....it could be worse.

Enjoy that SoM you guys!

Big A2

10. Big A2 Australia 22 Dec 2008, 08:50 GMT

So wait, do we get a Christmas update as well, or just the usualy Friday (Boxing Day) update?

Oh, and Captain Konami, we get VC updates every fortnignt. So a "one-game-per-fortnight status" would be a better way to put it.

Rexy

11. Rexy United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 08:52 GMT

One word needs to be said here.

"Finally!"

:D

KeeperBvK

12. KeeperBvK Germany 22 Dec 2008, 09:29 GMT

You're welcome, Darren. :)

P.S.: Yay, I could be of help to the VCR. ^^
P.P.S.: This truly is great news, although I gotta say I was hoping we'd also get Mario Golf. But who knows...maybe the Friday's aslo gonna get its share of games. Even with SoM ony two games would be a pretty slim update, especially for a Christmas week with Nintendo proclaiming to be celebrating.

Edit: You forgot to mention in the news that we're going to get the games on Wednesday rather than Friday. ;)

Terranigma

13. Terranigma United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 09:43 GMT

Finally Indeed. No much longer now. There's too much stuff i want that would require 10 Wii points cards at the least, so whether i get this as soon as it's out will probably depend on if i get a points card at christmas or get it as a gift. Also, we're geting them on Wednesday?

Even so, i'm getting Soulcalibur IV, NiGHTS and some unknown games so i wouldn't even play it.

Cally

14. Cally United States 22 Dec 2008, 09:46 GMT

I realized I'm only half way through SoM on my old SNES cart (unbelievable). O_o

Well, good for Europe. What other Mana games are really worth playing, anyway? I guess Secret of Mana is considered the best, and word of the rest of the series is kinda spotty.

KeeperBvK

15. KeeperBvK Germany 22 Dec 2008, 09:52 GMT

"What other Mana games are really worth playing, anyway? I guess Secret of Mana is considered the best, and word of the rest of the series is kinda spotty."

The prequel (Final Fantasy Adventure in NA) is an AMAZING game, as well.

16. 22 Dec 2008, 10:13 GMT

I Heard that Heroes of Mana was quite good. Better than Children of Mana anyway.

manson77

17. manson77 Germany 22 Dec 2008, 10:15 GMT

Yeah! Finally!

i8cookie

18. i8cookie United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 10:36 GMT

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyessss

Captain_Konami

19. Captain_Konami United States 22 Dec 2008, 10:49 GMT

@Big A2:

I get what yer saying, but since there were two games mentioned, isn't that 1 game per week, or two games per fortnight, if you prefer?

Dazza

20. Dazza United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 10:49 GMT

@KeeperBvK - Nintendo Power says:

"Adventure fans are in for a treat this Friday as the moment they’ve been waiting for arrives: the classic epic SECRET of MANA hits Virtual Console on Boxing Day."

Where did you get Wednesday from? I doubt they will change the rules and put these up on Christmas Eve somehow.

Kevin

21. Kevin United States 22 Dec 2008, 11:03 GMT

Congratulations Europe.

Big A2

22. Big A2 Australia 22 Dec 2008, 11:17 GMT

@Captain Konami: Yeah, I guess so, but some times we get one game a fornight, so I guess that would be half a game a week or something.

@Dazza: Last year they moved the usual Friday update to Tuesday (Christmas Day), so there's really no "rule", but I have no idea what KeeperBvK is trying to say. I don't think we'll get these on Wednesday.

KeeperBvK

23. KeeperBvK Germany 22 Dec 2008, 11:25 GMT

Whoah, you're right, sorry. I saw the news on two other sites first and they were both announcing a Wednesday release, although they quoted Nintendo Power as their source...which clearly says "Friday". I guess that got me confused a bit. Never mind. ^^

Spiky Idiot

24. Spiky Idiot United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 11:27 GMT

I hate spoilers..... btw where's Mario Golf?!

Dazza

25. Dazza United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 11:30 GMT

@Big A2 - Yeah you are right. Who knows maybe there will be another surprise for Christmas day! :D

RadioShadow

26. RadioShadow United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 11:43 GMT

Europe get Secret of Mana in 50Hz on Boxing Day! YAY! Even know this game can run in 60Hz Nintendo. <_<

But Europe fans will be happy nonetheless. Just don't bother with Sonic 2 for the Master System. It isn't easy as the review says.

Now as I'm using the USA Chanel, give use something good Nintendo of America!

Kurachi

27. Kurachi Netherlands 22 Dec 2008, 11:52 GMT

yay, lots of people now will be happy, including me :D
my favorite snes game comes soon now :)
just dont call it complaining, its just talking about it
and those who dont like it, just dont read those comments/threads

Hero10x

28. Hero10x United States 22 Dec 2008, 12:05 GMT

i cant believe this, i am so mad. i was worring about this, and here it is. my worst fears confirmed. EU was going to get what we had, and US was going to get what they had. meaning, the chances of us getting Phantasy star IV and castlevania 3 are really high. altho they may be really good games, im not really interested in either of them, i got all excited because the one day out of the the ENTIRE year that we were garaneteed a surprise/awesome game, was the monday before christmas, this is horrible. i got so excited about today that i could hardly sleep. i was hoping for something mind blowing, like majora's mask or donkey kong 64. but now, seems like we are just playing catchup with europe. what kind of crap is that? the ONEDAY we are told we are going to get a surprise. oops guess not, your just getting games that they have.

i cant believe this.
wow. what kind of surprise is that nintendo.

RadioShadow

29. RadioShadow United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 12:18 GMT

(while listing to Round 1 music on Streets of Rage)

Is the US Shop Channel getting an update today?

Bass X0

30. Bass X0 United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 12:19 GMT

oh yeah. I knew it! Secret of Mana is an instant download. I did expect Mario Golf alongside it but no matter. I've actually got into playing Secret of Evermore again recently which is still pretty good. It builds on the SoM experience; the story is better, alchemy is better than MP and there are more puzzles. I hope Evermore comes to VC some time too.

chunky_droid

31. chunky_droid Australia 22 Dec 2008, 12:53 GMT

I was just about to say "Where are you Bass X0!?" and there he is number 30 :)

Congrats Europalians! Now let's hope America gets something good announced in 5 minutes :)

Draygone

32. Draygone United States 22 Dec 2008, 12:56 GMT

I'd like to remind you all of the current track record of announced VC games before their actual release. I myself will not believe it until it actually happens.

MrLopez

33. MrLopez Netherlands 22 Dec 2008, 13:01 GMT

Yeah and you americans will get Earthbound....

chunky_droid

34. chunky_droid Australia 22 Dec 2008, 13:03 GMT

Merry X-Mas indeed, Phantasy Star IV for America. Oh well, there's always next week for me!

Tragickingdom

35. Tragickingdom United States 22 Dec 2008, 13:05 GMT

Whenever I heard someone talking about boxing day I thought that this had to do with fighting...and I always thought it odd that other countries would have a holiday about fighting...but to each his own...so I finaly look it up and it is about putting money in boxes for the poor. Dude, maybe call it money for the poor day, or something more fitting. Boxing over here is all about the violence, not about bonuses or extra cash. (unless your Don King that is)

Oh and I am happy you guys got SOM maybe some peace and quiet from the complainers now.

antster1983

36. antster1983 United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 13:13 GMT

@ Tragickingdom, Its alternative name is St. Stephen's Day :)

But yeah, I'll wait until Boxing Day itself to find out for sure...

Kokstra

37. Kokstra Netherlands 22 Dec 2008, 13:21 GMT

Saw the original cart in my local shop for €70, nice to know it'll be available for a mere 800 Wii Points :)

Captain_Konami

38. Captain_Konami United States 22 Dec 2008, 13:25 GMT

@Big A2:

Yowwwww. Half game weeks. I thought maybe ya'll had not been hit with such yet. I guess anything's possible for the Big N. I guess NA could even get nothing at all for Christmas (I doubt it..... but my faith in N's motivations has been diminished in past weeks/months).

djshep1973

39. djshep1973 United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 13:28 GMT

Wow, this is great news - if it does indeed happen of course! :-D I guess all I'd be waiting for now, in a catch-up kinda way is Axelay, which will come out some time I'm sure!

Having read all the various comments and complaints on this website for a while now, and having seen what sorts of games get released in each of the territories, I guess the only people that really do have anything to gripe about are those in Australasia - wouldn't it be really cool if they got some nice exclusives sometime? (or at least some of the C64 games, etc..)

KeeperBvK

40. KeeperBvK Germany 22 Dec 2008, 13:29 GMT

"Saw the original cart in my local shop for €70"

That's one hell of a sick store, then. ;)

RGVEDA

41. RGVEDA Germany 22 Dec 2008, 13:38 GMT

Great! I will download Secret of Mana.

But only 2 Games? Sorry, but i thought we will get 3 or 4 games! :(

Maybe there will be another game (i hope)

Hero10x

42. Hero10x United States 22 Dec 2008, 13:40 GMT

yep i was right, cept US only gets phantasy star IV
unbelieveable...

Ian Daemon

43. Ian Daemon United States 22 Dec 2008, 13:42 GMT

Speaking of Secret if Mana, I keep getting lost (pre-Flammie) and this site helps keep me on-track. (www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/snes/som) Hope this helps...

Bass X0

44. Bass X0 United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 13:56 GMT

We Europeans are getting the same amount the games as in America these days. Sometimes 1 more VC game. But it feels better because of no solo game weeks.

Kelvin

45. Kelvin United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 14:59 GMT

I suspect that I might be the only one more interested in Sonic 2 than Mana! ;)

Super Flip

46. Super Flip United States 22 Dec 2008, 15:48 GMT

Ok, You have your secret of mana, Now its time we get Castlevania 3.. :O

Bass X0

47. Bass X0 United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 17:43 GMT

hey, we just gave you Phantasy Star IV.

King Elemento

48. King Elemento United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 17:51 GMT

And you still have our Mario Golf.

WoRMaSTeR

49. WoRMaSTeR Finland 22 Dec 2008, 18:11 GMT

I just hope this information is correct, otherwise I will be chopping heads. :) Great news though. Happy holidays everybody!

Pj

50. Pj United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 19:22 GMT

Yeah I hope this is good news, I need some good news at the moment! I'm looking forward to down loading Sonic 2 for the master system but I am also going to download Secret of Mana. I'm not over bothered about Mario Golf but I've heard it's a good game, I'd rather download Mario tennis if that was to be made available. If in 2009 we saw Mario kart, Pilot Wings,Majora's mask, Yoshi's Island and Mario-all Stars then 2009 will be a great year for the VC. We can only hope... Happy Christmas and have a great 2009.

slangman

51. slangman United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 19:27 GMT

Finally SOM. But why did it take this long?

@ Super Flip release Mario Golf and you guys will get CVIII. The hostages are getting released lol.

Danieru Lynx

52. Danieru Lynx United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 19:34 GMT

Win game is win.

Now I have a use for the fiver my Dad randomly gave me. Wii Points FTW!

Give me Soleil and my Virtual Console wants are complete.

i8cookie

53. i8cookie United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 20:03 GMT

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyessssssss

timp29

54. timp29 Australia 22 Dec 2008, 21:20 GMT

Rexy out of retirement!! :o

So has this game been released already? I'd hate to be Dazza if this turns out to be wrong :p

@djshep1973: axelay is available to you by changing your region to australia.

Shadx

55. Shadx Canada 22 Dec 2008, 21:22 GMT

I wonder ... will wii see Majoras mask anytime soon? Its the one zelda (apart from all the handheld ones excluding Minish Cap and Phantom Hourglass.) I havn't played. I'd download it in an instant. I'm also contemplaiting Link to the Past (I own the original cart but it won't save anymore, plus my SNES's cords are all facked up, so it resets if you bump it). I also own the original Ocarina of Time cart, but I don't enjoy that game as much as everyone else seems to. My favorite zelda is A Link to the Past though. It'd be cool if they made a fully 3d Link to the Past, with the exact same graphics it has now, but 3d ... and not pixelated.

Mickeymac

56. Mickeymac United States 22 Dec 2008, 21:58 GMT

@Shadx

No, we will not be getting Majora's Mask any time soon, as it required the RAM expension, which is difficult to emulate.

As for A Link to The Past, if you can't get easy access to the GBA remake, then I say go for it.

Viral

57. Viral United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 22:09 GMT

About time is all I can say.

Viral

58. Viral United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 22:10 GMT

@55 : I agree, A Link To The Past is the best Zelda game. Ocarina of Time was over-hyped for me.

Mickeymac

59. Mickeymac United States 22 Dec 2008, 22:35 GMT

Yeah, I got bored with Ocarina about halfway through. A Link to the Past is my third favorite, after Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

King Elemento

60. King Elemento United Kingdom 22 Dec 2008, 23:29 GMT

@56. Mickeymac
Uhh... No. If my PC can emulate an Expansion Pak, so can the Wii.
Besides that, if the Gamecube can emulate a game with an Expansion Pak required (ie, the game in question), shouldn't it's successor also be able to?

Big A2

61. Big A2 Australia 22 Dec 2008, 23:46 GMT

@ Hero10x: Calm down, you can't set your expectation too high. PSIV is a good game. You might get CVIII next week, just like we might get Mario Golf next fortnight,

Mickeymac

62. Mickeymac United States 22 Dec 2008, 23:51 GMT

@King Elemento

Fine, then perhaps I'm wrong, although I could've sworn that was Ninty's excuse for why the game wasn't there yet, but I guess that was simply a rumor. I don't care either way, as Majora's Mask is my least favorite Zelda game, and the only one I didn't enjoy, but at least the rest of you still have some hope, eh?

Betagam7

63. Betagam7 United Kingdom 23 Dec 2008, 00:22 GMT

How exactly do you know this?

VCmonster

64. VCmonster Germany 23 Dec 2008, 00:41 GMT

Best possible christmas gift from Nintendo. Cant wait playing through Mana during the holiday break.

Mickeymac

65. Mickeymac United States 23 Dec 2008, 01:35 GMT

@Betagam7

I didn't, I only thought I knew. I'll try to remember to not make assumtions based on half-assed rumors from now on.

Big A2

66. Big A2 Australia 23 Dec 2008, 04:52 GMT

@King Elemento: Apparently, the emulation on the VC is super strict or something. PC emulates can emulate them easy, but then again, most PC emulators crash all the time. The VC doesn't.

Pj

67. Pj United Kingdom 23 Dec 2008, 12:33 GMT

I've read from a British gaming magazine that there is a rumour that the Big N are having trouble porting Pilot Wings and Mario Kart to the VC, Some thing to do with mode-7?

Bass X0

68. Bass X0 United Kingdom 23 Dec 2008, 12:39 GMT

which magazine, pj?

Mickeymac

69. Mickeymac United States 23 Dec 2008, 21:48 GMT

@Pj

F-Zero, R-Type III, and several other games already released on the VC use Mode-7 quite extensively, so I don't think that's the issue.

I wonder if the SuperFX chip is hard to emulate, Since both Star Fox and Yoshi's Island use it, and we haven't seen hide nor hair of either of those games.*

*Edit: It is, in fact, quite difficult to emulate the SuperFX chip, apparently. And Super Mario Kart apparently has some built-in anti-emulator thing that also makes it difficult to emulate.

Betagam7

70. Betagam7 United Kingdom 23 Dec 2008, 22:47 GMT

@Mickeymac.

Sorry my "how do you know this" wasn't aimed at you. It was a question about the source of the article. I see now its come from a German magazine.

Mickeymac

71. Mickeymac United States 23 Dec 2008, 23:06 GMT

@Betagam7

Oh, that's alright. The good thing is, you actually got me to look up a source to substantiate my claims that the RAM Expansion was difficult to emulate, since so far I haven't come across a single legitimate source that proves that.

Viral

72. Viral United Kingdom 23 Dec 2008, 23:16 GMT

It's officially on the Club Nintendo website so it must be true.

Mickeymac

73. Mickeymac United States 23 Dec 2008, 23:20 GMT

@Viral

That's good to hear, at least you guys get a cool Christmas present from Ninty.:)

Pj

74. Pj United Kingdom 24 Dec 2008, 01:32 GMT

@Bass X0

February's 2009 edition of N-gamer (page 42) The big N invented these great games so they should be able to put them on the VC. So I hope these are only rumours......

Get those Wii points out we are getting Secret of Mana and Sonic 2 (It's on the Nintendo website) So thanks that early post guys.. Enjoy!!!!!!

Jolted85

75. Jolted85 United States 24 Dec 2008, 09:08 GMT

Glad you guys get that as a Christmas present, it is an awesome game, I'm glad we finally received Phantasy Star IV on Monday.

mathewsinc

76. mathewsinc United Kingdom 24 Dec 2008, 10:03 GMT

so is it actually downloadable now ?

MrLopez

77. MrLopez Netherlands 24 Dec 2008, 12:23 GMT

The nintendo site has the same message!!
Friday Secret of Mana!!!!

Objection_Blaster

78. Objection_Blaster United States 24 Dec 2008, 14:31 GMT

Good for you guys! Wonder if everyone gets a Christmas update? Probably not...anyway, Happy Holidays!!

KingMike

79. KingMike United States 24 Dec 2008, 14:43 GMT

@69:
But Nintendo would probably know about their own copy protections?
That hasn't stopped emulators.
The only special chip game we've gotten (that I can remember) is Super Mario RPG (SA-1). And I hear that was plenty difficult to support.

Bass X0

80. Bass X0 United Kingdom 24 Dec 2008, 15:02 GMT

Is it wrong of me to hope for more than 2 games despite 1 of them being SoM?

Mickeymac

81. Mickeymac United States 24 Dec 2008, 19:07 GMT

@KingMike

Except in this case, the copy protection was provided by a certain piece of hardware in the very cartridge itself, and it's pretty damn smart, too. All-in-all, it's something that has to be worked around, and might explain why the game hasn't been released yet.

Captain_Konami

82. Captain_Konami United States 25 Dec 2008, 02:02 GMT

@Bass X0: Not at all wrong........ just potentially masochistic. :)

But yes, I still have a tiny sparkle in my heart holding out hope that N will manage a Christmas effort in the next 24 hours.

Viral

83. Viral United Kingdom 25 Dec 2008, 22:31 GMT

No Bass, it's completely acceptable for them not to tell us we're getting an additional two games. ;) I'll find out in an hour and 29 minutes or so.

Shadx

84. Shadx Canada 04 Jan 2009, 05:11 GMT

@.58 Viral: Finally someone who agrees with me! Every time Zelda comes up in a conversation (which it does alot as Zelda is probably Ninty's greatest series (since it's more mature than Mario) IMO) my friends all say "OoT was the best" and call me crazy for thinking that ALttP was the best.

@59.Mickeymac: I wouldn't say I got bored with it, but it definately wasn't my favorite. I also loved TP and WW. Wind Waker has the best replay value out of them though.

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