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ESRB Update: Super Punch-Out!! and Ogre Battle on Their Way to the US

Posted Fri, 09 Jan 2009 by Marcel Van Duyn

Yay for stereotyping!

Yay for stereotyping!

There haven't really been too many great games released in the US recently - Aside from StarTropics II, Phantasy Star IV and possibly Kirby's Dream Land 3 it's been quite a bleak affair. Thankfully it seems like Nintendo are stepping up their game a little bit sometime soon, as two awesome games have been given the go-ahead by the ESRB.

Super Punch-Out!! is quite naturally the sequel to the original Punch-Out!! for NES. Visually the game looks a bit more like the arcade installments of the series - Your character (There is still some dispute over whether it's Little Mac or not) can be seen in the foreground, transparent, while the opponent is in front of him and fully visible. The rest of the game plays just like Punch-Out!! for NES - Study your opponent's moves, dodge his attacks and correctly time your own attacks. There are some minor additions and changes - You can now block up and down, and the uppercut move can be used as much as you want after successfully landing multiple hits in a row, until you take a hit yourself. Some purists still prefer the NES version, but Super Punch-Out!! is pretty much an improvement in every way.

The other newly rated game was already released in Japan some time ago, hinting at a possible release elsewhere - It's Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen. This is another Square Enix game - It's not quite as popular as their other franchises, but it's definitely a very good strategy game. The original cartridge is also fairly rare, meaning this might be a good way to get the game if you just don't want to shell out the cash for the cartridge.

Tags: Virtual Console, SNES, ESRB ratings.

User Comments

NintendoBrad

1. NintendoBrad United States 09 Jan 2009, 17:29 GMT

Yes! Super Punch-Out!!

Woo!

Tony

2. Tony United States 09 Jan 2009, 17:30 GMT

I never knew Super Punchout was even a real game until recently. You know what it looks awesome !!!

worrybomb

3. worrybomb United States 09 Jan 2009, 17:31 GMT

It's good to see Super Punch-Out!! rated for the Wii. It was probably known that SPO!! would come out during the VC's life cycle but it's good to see that it is pretty much official. I'm also excited to know Ogre Battle is coming stateside as well. Definitely 2 VC titles worthy of download when they get released. =)

Bass X0

4. Bass X0 United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 17:41 GMT

Its about time. But I never did get into Super Punch Out though back in the day. But I did when I first played Punch Out on the VC. Does Super Punch Out play much differently to Punch Out? Ogre Battle is a good game but I'm no good at strategy games.

And still no Genesis Super Street Fighter II on the coming soon pages? Or does VC-Reviews not think it has been given proper confirmation or something? Not that I'll ever download it.

WarioFan63

5. WarioFan63 United States 09 Jan 2009, 17:41 GMT

Wasnt he referred to as Little Mac in Fight Night Round 2?

Fight Night is canon to Punch-Out right?

dfalco

6. dfalco United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 17:48 GMT

Punch out one great game it my fraviot boxing game every i must buy buy but there is still great snes games out there

Don

7. Don United States 09 Jan 2009, 17:48 GMT

Sure, it's rated by ESRB. But it probably won't be released for at least a year just like Pilotwings, Earthbound, Duck Hunt, etc. which were all rated by ESRB as well

Bass X0

8. Bass X0 United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 17:49 GMT

I don't think Duck Hunt will ever come out. I believe Nintendo have said that the Wii Remote is nothing like the NES Zapper in terms of design even though they do act the same way. And there are many games on the coming soon list that have been on for ages.

Angelic Lapras King

9. Angelic Lapras King United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 17:58 GMT

Awesome, though god knows when we ll see em. Still, the ratings mean they re coming at least. :)

Corbie

10. Corbie United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:02 GMT

That's great news considering how expensive the Ogre Battle SNES cart has become in the last few years. And Super Punch Out is still one I love to drag out and play.

djshep1973

11. djshep1973 United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 18:11 GMT

Please, please, please bring Super Punch Out to the VC in Europe, NOE!!

:-D

Kultist

12. Kultist Canada 09 Jan 2009, 18:20 GMT

:D
Can't wait for these two! Hope I'll be able still be able to get my record of 8 seconds for the second Bruiser twin in Super Punch Out! :P

Bass X0

13. Bass X0 United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 18:20 GMT

#11: Why wouldn't they? It was released here so it should come sometime soon.

Bensei

14. Bensei Austria 09 Jan 2009, 18:28 GMT

I still hope to get fIght night round 2 which includes this. Is it any good?

RGVEDA

15. RGVEDA Germany 09 Jan 2009, 18:31 GMT

Great! Super Punch Out. I had this game!! Cool, i will download it :)

lockelocke

16. lockelocke United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:37 GMT

Easily one of the most FUN games for SNES. Hopefully we won't have to wait FOREVER to play it.

Stuffgamer1

17. Stuffgamer1 United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:41 GMT

@WarioFan63: I don't think the series are actually related, except that the Gamecube version of Round 2 had Super Punch Out on it for no particular reason (that I know of, anyway).

I wish I could expect these games to come out soon, but I'll try to be patient given how long Kirby's Dream Land 3 took to touch down after rating, not to mention the fact that Earthbound STILL isn't out.

Link79

18. Link79 United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:53 GMT

I bet they recently approved super punch out for release on VC to hype up the new Wii version. Maybe it will be added around the same time. Let's hope the new game delivers. I'd love to try out the Ogre battle series. I wonder if they might release the N64 ogre battle at some point. Anyone know which one is the best?

7th lutz

19. 7th lutz United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:54 GMT

I am happy that Super Punch-Out got esrb rated and I hope it gets release in North America by April.

I have no plans of downloading Super Punch-out!!, but this game has a pretty good following.

I got Super Punch-out!! and it is a great games. I got it cheap for $6.00 at a flea market back in 2001.

Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen is at a great price when it comes out on the vc.

Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen was one of the last 2 Enix games published in America till 2000. Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen is a difficult game to find as a result.

Tony

20. Tony United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:56 GMT

Don't forget Castlevania 3 and Musha are ESRB rated so that makes 4 big name titles for a possible 2009 release. Hopefully Smash Bros. and Life Force will be rated soon.

HeikeKagero

21. HeikeKagero United States 09 Jan 2009, 18:58 GMT

Super Punch-Out!!

THIS HAS TO COME NOW! One of my all time favorite games is finally coming. I hope it comes out soon

rat

22. rat Mexico 09 Jan 2009, 19:00 GMT

I've been waiting for Super Punch Out!! ever since I downloaded the original Punch Out!! Usually I can't decide which one should I download, but SPO is a winner. Ogre Battle is not bad, I rented it once and played it for hours straight. It's sort of a strategy/rpg hybrid, you need to do many things on the map and fights are not original-final-fantasy boring — then again, all RPG fights are fun no matter what the graphics are, and having animation is like playing battlechess, but I digress.

touffeboy

23. touffeboy Canada 09 Jan 2009, 19:29 GMT

No nintendo 64 game! :(

But it's a good news! Nintendo gave good titles!

Hum I have a question: It's possible to make an Top 20 of Virtual console all week (All the country)?

Betagam7

24. Betagam7 United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 19:30 GMT

Very positive news. Always fancied ogre battle back in the day but wasn't an importer then hopefully it'll show up in Hanabi and super punch out is a game I will probably download too (wasn't it free with a GC game?)
Too play devils advocate though games getting rated shouldn't get anyone too excited its no indication that they'll ever come out, see pilotwings, beetle adventure racing etc.

gameking23

25. gameking23 United States 09 Jan 2009, 19:49 GMT

Yay more to look foward to. :)

WolfLink22

26. WolfLink22 United States 09 Jan 2009, 20:03 GMT

I'll believe this when i see it.Because come on Nintendo stepping up it's Game is kinda hard to believe after weeks of 1 VC Game a Week and complaints by not only me but other people too.I don't think Nintendo goes to websites and says they have a point we need to step the VC up a bit.It just does not happen like that.Nintendo runs things their own way and that's how it will most likely always be too.

Mickeymac

27. Mickeymac United States 09 Jan 2009, 20:15 GMT

Alright!...wait, I haven't even played the NES one yet, so it's definitely going to be a while until I get this...unless the NES version is on Animal Crossing.

As for Ogre Battle, no thanks. I like RTS's, but Ogre Battle just looks incredibly boring. However, I do know that a lot of people were looking forward to it, so for them, I am happy. Plus, it's nice to see another Enix game on it's way to the VC.

Pit 42

28. Pit 42 United States 09 Jan 2009, 21:26 GMT

I won't be getting either, but it's awesome to see that Nintendo is getting back up to speed on VC.

ness

29. ness Germany 09 Jan 2009, 21:27 GMT

Nice to read that =)

@ touffeboy (#24): "It's possible to make an Top 20 of Virtual console all week (All the country)?"

VC-Reviews did that some time ago, but I think it became too boring^^.

WarioFan63

30. WarioFan63 United States 09 Jan 2009, 21:33 GMT

I don't think the series are actually related, except that the Gamecube version of Round 2 had Super Punch Out on it for no particular reason (that I know of, anyway).

It was more or less a silly joke asking about Punch-Out canon anyway.

Also you thought it was strange for Super Punch-Out to be in Fight Night? I think a very good chunk of it was because Little Mac was playable in Fight Night.

Terranigma

31. Terranigma United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 21:34 GMT

Is it me or is it Ironic that the day i buy Fight Night Round 2, Super Punch Out!! is announced for a VC release? Stranger things have happened to me though.

As for Ogre Battle, great to see it's finally heading to the Western VC. I'll pick it up at some point when it's released, although it could be awhile.

Bahamut ZERO

32. Bahamut ZERO United States 09 Jan 2009, 21:50 GMT

Of course, every SNES game has to have Super in the front :)

SupermarketZombies

33. SupermarketZombies United States 09 Jan 2009, 22:15 GMT

Ogre Battle!!!!!!!!!!! yay

Starwolf_UK

34. Starwolf_UK United Kingdom 09 Jan 2009, 22:22 GMT

Fight Night is canon to Punch-Out right?
If that is so than SSX and NBA (?) are part of the Mario Canon. Joking aside, yeah there was a time when Nintendo characters appeared in Gamecube versions of some EA titles. As far as Japan went they were the best selling verison of said titles but the rest of the world didn't care...

All I can say about these two is great another 2 games to add to the "why don't we have this?" list that comes along every monday.

Master K

35. Master K United States 09 Jan 2009, 22:24 GMT

Super Punch-Out!! is the only SNES cartridge I still own. I'll definitely DL this since I don't have my SNES. :p

LinktotheFuture

36. LinktotheFuture United States 09 Jan 2009, 22:51 GMT

I am glad Super Punch Out is coming out. It will be a must buy for sure.

Shadx

37. Shadx Canada 09 Jan 2009, 22:55 GMT

33. Bahamut ZERO: Not EVERY game ....... just 98% of them ;)

Kenryoku_Maxis

38. Kenryoku_Maxis United States 09 Jan 2009, 23:20 GMT

I'll be interested in Ogre Battle. I'm not a fan of Final Fantasy Tactics, but Ogre Battle and the 64 incarnation are suppose to be even better (and more balanced, better AI, etc). Which is what I thought were the downfalls of Final Fantasy Tactics. If the game wasn't plagued with the problems of Final Fantasy Tactics, then it should be great.

Stuffgamer1

39. Stuffgamer1 United States 09 Jan 2009, 23:38 GMT

@WarioFan63: Well, I didn't really know that Little Mac was playable in Fight Night Round 2. I've never played it. I just heard that Super Punch Out!! was on the disc. I guess Starwolf_UK is right, though. Basically same reason for the appearances in the games he mentioned, along with Link in Soul Caliber 2.

Jolted85

40. Jolted85 United States 10 Jan 2009, 00:20 GMT

I'll definitely download Super Punch Out, I remember playing it as a kid, and I always wanted to play it again, I also hear Ogre Battle is a great game as well, but I'm more interested in Super Punch Out.

Link79

41. Link79 United States 10 Jan 2009, 00:55 GMT

The punch out games are still the best ever! No other boxing game can touch it.

Digiki

42. Digiki Canada 10 Jan 2009, 01:02 GMT

I wanna battle some ogreses

J.K.

43. J.K. United States 10 Jan 2009, 01:41 GMT

Wow surprising to see these, but I think fair warning should go to anyone who is a fan of the old Punchout that this game in comparison is downright substandard and very cheapo. Unlike the original in the SNES game you get only 1 3min round to win. Every character you can't take the slower way of beating into submission, you have to use a very strict pattern to beat them and the 3min clock. And unlike the old Punchout, many adversaries will attack using special cheapshots like blindness(spit), flying kicks, balls, a wooden staff, and more.

But, if you're a fan of a game you have to follow a strict pattern on or surely fail, go for it, otherwise stick to the original as it is a bit longer and just more entertaining.

honkydory

44. honkydory Canada 10 Jan 2009, 03:29 GMT

it's not quite as one-sided as JK makes it seem, for the first 3/4s of the game you can get by without memorization, you just probably won't set any new records. for the final circuit, however, you need to put in some time and learn those patterns. i feel like super punch-out, though shorter, does have a bit more depth with the uppercut meter, than the nes version with its stars.
also, ogre battle is awesome. a little like shining force meets final fantasy.

Mike

45. Mike United States 10 Jan 2009, 04:55 GMT

@8. Bass X0
Yeah, but Operation Wolf came out and didn't that only use the NES Zapper? If so, then Duck Hunt still has chance.

megacody

46. megacody United States 10 Jan 2009, 04:57 GMT

This is good news. NOA is slowly showing they care.

Mickeymac

47. Mickeymac United States 10 Jan 2009, 05:45 GMT

@Mike

Yes, but it also sucked. Would you really want to have to play it using the D-pad? I know I wouldn't.

Twilight Crow

48. Twilight Crow Mexico 10 Jan 2009, 07:18 GMT

I'm not interested on these series, but I'm glad for all those Punch Out! and Ogre Battle fans ;).

Manicfatty

49. Manicfatty United States 10 Jan 2009, 08:56 GMT

It's nice to see these show up, but I'm not going to get too excited. There are plenty of rated games that have not yet see the light of day and I have a feeling that Super Punch Out may release closer to the new Wii Punch Out. Ogre Battle is a FANTASTIC game for those who enjoy the genre. 2 noteworthy games to spread out over how long? Who knows. Nice to see them, but I'll reserve my judgement and enthusiasm for an actual release.

  • your friendly neighborhood Nintendo Cynic :P

Tornado Man

50. Tornado Man United States 10 Jan 2009, 11:02 GMT

YAY!! Super Punch-Out :D

potomas

51. potomas United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 11:39 GMT

cool remember beating gabby jay in 7 seconds

Betagam7

52. Betagam7 United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 12:07 GMT

Those interested in Super Punch out would be best advised to check ebay first. Fight Night Round 2 (which includes the game) can be picked up for the same or less than it costs to purchase 1000 points. The advantages are a free GC boxing game, not having to take up space on your Wii's probably already burgeoning memory and for Pal gamers (need to clarify this) the possibility that SPO will run 60hz (as the conversions for Animal Crossing did).
Plus you don't have to wait for Nintendo to release the thing (hello Pilotwings)

Viral

53. Viral United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 13:59 GMT

Totally off subject, but JK (post number 45) has the funniest Mario picture ever. lol :)

Terranigma

54. Terranigma United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 14:02 GMT

"Operation Wolf came out and didn't that only use the NES Zapper? If so, then Duck Hunt still has chance."
They wouldn't release it without support for the Light Gun games, as Duck Hunt without the Zapper isn't Duck Hunt at all. Something like the Zapper is a must for games like that, otherwise it's pointless. Look at Operation Wolf and you'll see what i mean.

Nintendo surely have the sense not to release Duck Hunt without Light Gun/Wii Remote support. If they did, you could bet quite a few fans would be angry with them and it just wouldn't sell. To be honest though, people would only really buy the game for the Nostalgia Factor much more than the gameplay.

dfalco

55. dfalco United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 15:02 GMT

i must get some more wii points i hope it comes out soon along with mario golf must have both now.

ALDAWGZ

56. ALDAWGZ United States 10 Jan 2009, 16:01 GMT

awesome cant wait 4 super punch out been wantin that game 4 a while

ALDAWGZ

57. ALDAWGZ United States 10 Jan 2009, 16:02 GMT

they should release duck hunt as a wiiware game with online suport i think that b awesome

Mike

58. Mike United States 10 Jan 2009, 16:43 GMT

@49. Mickeymac
We could just use the Wii Remote and point at the screen to shoot the ducks. Who cares if it isn't the same as the zapper, it's still Duck Hunt! I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Bahamut ZERO

59. Bahamut ZERO United States 10 Jan 2009, 18:03 GMT

I hope these arent the only two goood games NOA plans on giving us in Q1..............

Jashin

60. Jashin Germany 10 Jan 2009, 18:43 GMT

Wohoooooo!!!
Can't believe it!!
Ogre Battle!!!!!!!!
More RPG-Goodness!!
Hope we Europeans get it soon, too!!!!

chunky_droid

61. chunky_droid Australia 10 Jan 2009, 18:55 GMT

@Bass: Not sure if anyone actually answered your original question, couldn't find an answer. Super Punch-Out!! plays similarly to the original, but with MUCH tighter control and a lot more satisfaction in beating your opponents face in. It's a very well crafted game.

Mickeymac

62. Mickeymac United States 10 Jan 2009, 19:49 GMT

@Mike

But they won't include Wiimote support, unless they remake it for Wiiware. If they do release it for VC, I sure as hell won't be buying it.

Betagam7

63. Betagam7 United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 19:54 GMT

Isn't the shooting game on Wii Play pretty much Duck Hunt with different graphics?

Bass X0

64. Bass X0 United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 20:43 GMT

47: Operation Wolf on the NES could be played with the regular controller as a standard option - it was even on the original NES version. It was a terrible game played like this but it was still playable.

With Duck Hunt, you couldn't control it with a D-Pad and the wii remote doesn't work the same way as a NES Zapper. The Wii remote needs a sensor bar to work, the NES Zapper doesn't and the technical way it registers whether you hit the target or not is completely different. Nintendo seems to just not release games that it would have to change a lot of the code in how it plays. Changing cosmetic detail like the licensed banners on Wave Race 64 or the Japanese text in Sin and Punishment is one thing. Changing the way a game plays is something completely different.

I do wonder though if it is possible to use one of those controller adapter things for the Wii which allows you to use the actual NES controller to play Operation Wolf on VC with the actual NES Zapper. I think it should be possible.

MrLopez

65. MrLopez Netherlands 10 Jan 2009, 21:20 GMT

Punch Out is pretty sweet! Nintendo wants us to play all punch out games before the Wii version!

dfalco

66. dfalco United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 22:57 GMT

puch out will but put in my top twenty snes of all time i love must nintendo games i must have every nintendo game on the snes and the n64 snes is my all time best game consals
snes
20 axelay
19super metroid
18castelvania 4
17fzero
16donkey kong cournty
15 mortal kombat
14kirby 5 in one
13donkey kong cournty 2
12 space invaders
11punch out
10 mario all stars
9 iliousion of gaia/time
8street fighter
7secert of mana
6super mario world
5mario kart
4 donald duck maluid malide
3super mario world 2
2a tight second and first place it will have to be chrono trigger
and number 1 must go to link to past.

dfalco

67. dfalco United Kingdom 10 Jan 2009, 23:01 GMT

my top twenty n64
20 mortal kombat 4
19 mario party 2
18diddy kong racing
17pokemon stadium
16pilotwings
15 yoshi story
14extream g
13pokemon snap
12 star wars epiosde racer
11 killer instice
10golden eye
9 jet force gimie
8 kirby 64
7 major mask
6 winback
5mario kart
4mario 64
3 banjo kazooie
2 smash brothers
1 ocarian of time

Kevin

68. Kevin United States 10 Jan 2009, 23:49 GMT

Super Punch-Out!!'s coming? Sweet! I finally get to enjoy the game.

touffeboy

69. touffeboy Canada 11 Jan 2009, 02:18 GMT

It's funny dfalco your top 20! But i will check for Ogre Battle, this game look fun! And for punch-out, everybody says this game rocks! I need space in my wii (Memory), i will buy others games later. But, a look this game seriously! Seriously, Nintendo really good start his new year!

Objection_Blaster

70. Objection_Blaster United States 11 Jan 2009, 03:02 GMT

Is this "Ogre Battle" what evolved into Ogre Tactics? Cuz, I'd love it if the N64 one came out, but if that's the same series, then it's fine.
Anyway, 2 good games on the way! Very nice.

Terranigma

71. Terranigma United Kingdom 11 Jan 2009, 11:10 GMT

@Objection_Blaster
The series did eventually become Tactics Ogre, yes.

Zukovius

72. Zukovius United States 11 Jan 2009, 11:34 GMT

Shweet! This means Castlevania 3 is due out any time now.

Zukovius

73. Zukovius United States 11 Jan 2009, 11:35 GMT

Oh yeah and Super Punch Out is freakin sweet. There's also a new one comin out for the Wii.

Bass X0

74. Bass X0 United Kingdom 11 Jan 2009, 15:29 GMT

I don't think much of the new Punch Out game. It looks very basic. The characters are lacking in detail and the boxing arena is very dark. Hopefully the game looks much better when its released, I'm sure it will. I want all of the SNES characters in it too.

Objection_Blaster

75. Objection_Blaster United States 11 Jan 2009, 17:45 GMT

@Terrangima-Thanks for answering.

niner

76. niner United States 11 Jan 2009, 18:32 GMT

Another Square-Enix game bodes well for future releases. SE seems to be one of the only 3rd parties that is making real dough on their VC releases. Hopefully this means they'll release at least a few more of the SNES titles that they wouldn't ever rerelease on a console:

Alcahest
Bahamut Lagoon
Front Mission
Seiken Densetsu 3 (Secret of Mana 2)
Treasure Hunter G
Actraiser 2
Illusion of Time
Soul Blazer
Terranigma
7th Saga
Brain Lord
E.V.O.
Mystic Ark
Paladin's Quest
RoboTrek
Star Ocean

Objection_Blaster

77. Objection_Blaster United States 11 Jan 2009, 18:46 GMT

@niner-Star Ocean and SO II are being re-released for PSP so they're not happening on VC.

tatemon555

78. tatemon555 Canada 11 Jan 2009, 21:35 GMT

Super Punch-Out and Ogre Battle? I hope one of 'em comes out tomorrow.

Drake

79. Drake Netherlands 11 Jan 2009, 23:30 GMT

Treasure Hunter G and Front Mission Gun Hazard are already out in Japan.

Objection_Blaster

80. Objection_Blaster United States 11 Jan 2009, 23:33 GMT

@Drake-Just 2 of many titles only Japan has on VC that I (and many others) want.

chunky_droid

81. chunky_droid Australia 12 Jan 2009, 05:33 GMT

@Bass: I doubt it'll stay like that. I agree that the ring looks very dark, but as it's only aesthetic Left Field are probably doing that section of the game last. Mario Strikers was a top notch game with plenty of detail so Punch-Out!! Wii should look fantastic upon its release.

I just hope we get the option of classic controller and Wii Board/Remote combo. Both would be incredible fun assuming Left Field take advantage of it.

Viral

82. Viral United Kingdom 12 Jan 2009, 06:33 GMT

I agree Droid. Rayman Raving Rabbids TV Party made decent use of the board, but I still prefer the game without the board.

ShivanDrgn

83. ShivanDrgn United States 12 Jan 2009, 09:55 GMT

Ogre Battle is great! I played this one and the N64 one to death. I hope that it comes out soon!

slangman

84. slangman United Kingdom 12 Jan 2009, 12:06 GMT

Finally Super Punch-Out!!. I was actually thinking about when it would appear or get rated. Won't get too excited till it comes out though.

chunky_droid

85. chunky_droid Australia 12 Jan 2009, 12:34 GMT

I got a feeling we're gonna get either a Genesis game or a Master System title today, I don't know why I just have a feeling.

chunky_droid

86. chunky_droid Australia 12 Jan 2009, 13:02 GMT

Well I was wrong, Castlevania III!

squeath2001

87. squeath2001 United States 12 Jan 2009, 18:09 GMT

goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeney goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye goldeneye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terranigma

88. Terranigma United Kingdom 12 Jan 2009, 21:02 GMT

@Squeath2001
If only it weren't so complicated.

Rapadash6

89. Rapadash6 United States 12 Jan 2009, 21:11 GMT

I'm betting Super Punch-Out!! won't hit the service until sometime close to the release of the new Wii game. I think Ogre Battle will be out by the end of the month, however.

DrJonAngus

90. DrJonAngus United States 13 Jan 2009, 13:44 GMT

I love Ogre Battle and Super Punch Out. Because I was so stupid and didn't buy Super Punch Out when EB games sold older game, I emultated it and loved it. I also emulated Ogre Battle and it was awesome. Looking forward to the awesome SNES titles because SNES and Genesis as well are my favorite systems. I wish Dreamcast games would come out for the Virtual Console, but that is a far cry with the memory issue and probably some licensing issues along the lines.

That Guy from Faxanadu

91. That Guy from Faxanadu Sweden 13 Jan 2009, 16:47 GMT

Some great games on the way to US, I hope Ogre Battle will make it here one beautifull Hanabi festival...

chunky_droid

92. chunky_droid Australia 13 Jan 2009, 21:03 GMT

@Terranigma: I still can't see how Rare would have anything to do with Goldeneye, they don't own the license anymore :/

Mickeymac

93. Mickeymac United States 13 Jan 2009, 21:30 GMT

@chunky_droid

Good point, for the most it's just the license itself that's causing the problem. Although, I'm pretty sure that it would have to go through Rare at some point, since they probably still have the license to the game itself.

chunky_droid

94. chunky_droid Australia 13 Jan 2009, 23:12 GMT

I wasn't sure Mickeymac, I know that EA released Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, so I assumed they were the ones with the last rights to Goldeneye.

I mean, if Nintendo can release the Donkey Kong Country games with Rareware's logo in it (which I believe is only possible because they aren't called Rareware anymore and do not use the logo anymore), they shouldn't HAVE to go through Rare to release Goldeneye. But I'm not a lawyer and obviously being part of the common man, more than likely don't know the full story.

dfalco

95. dfalco United Kingdom 14 Jan 2009, 17:32 GMT

i see that the have taken 5 games of the vc list
hagane
tinstar
uniracers
beetel adventuring racing
aerofighter assault

Terranigma

96. Terranigma United Kingdom 14 Jan 2009, 18:04 GMT

Those games may have been on their for ages but unless the rating was taken down (which i'm not aware of if it's the case) then i'm not sure what the reason is to that. Can anyone give a reason for this?

@Chunky_Droid
I'd of thought that they would have at least something to do with things, being (Obviously) the original Dev. If they weren't bought out by Microsoft, it could all be just that little bit simpler.

chunky_droid

97. chunky_droid Australia 14 Jan 2009, 20:53 GMT

Being the original developer didn't seem to affect the Donkey Kong Country games, which is why I thought it would purely be just a license issue and not a developer issue. But I know M$ would kick and scream if Nintendo managed to release it :P

Terranigma

98. Terranigma United Kingdom 14 Jan 2009, 21:55 GMT

Yeah but Nintendo own the Donkey Kong IP, so that's different to Goldeneye as Nintendo don't own the James Bond IP

chunky_droid

99. chunky_droid Australia 15 Jan 2009, 02:08 GMT

Yeah that's why i figured Nintendo would have to deal with Activision and MGM, and not Rare or Microsoft. As far as I can tell Rare/Microsoft have absolutely no chance of releasing their own version.

The Fox

100. The Fox United States 15 Jan 2009, 16:07 GMT

Regarding the Rare/Goldeneye discussion: When Rare made the Donkey Kong Country games, Nintendo no doubt made it perfectly clear in the contracts that they owned all rights to the games, and that after a set period of time Rare would lose all royalties associated with the sales of the games. However, Goldeneye is a different beast. Rare (well, Microsoft really) probably can't release the game themselves but they can stop it from being released in other ways, such as the V.C, as they own the rights to the game but not the Bond liscense.

Objection_Blaster

101. Objection_Blaster United States 24 Jan 2009, 02:39 GMT

Goldeneye discussion: I don't know if it'd be worth doing, but if they did the following, it wouldn't be the first time a game was altered to be re-released after a license expires: take out all 007 references and replace with new names, etc. and release it as Silver Optical Muscle or something. Stupid? Kinda, but if it got onto VC then...

Mickeymac

102. Mickeymac United States 24 Jan 2009, 20:56 GMT

@Objection_Blaster

That would simply be too much work for a VC game( besides, then it would be Perfect Dark). However, throw in motion controls, and they could make it a Wiiware game.

Still, I wouldn't buy it, since I hated the missions in GoldenEye. However, I do hope that they do that for Turok, since it turns out that it's a licensed game for a long-forgotten comicbook series.

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